Hagen Fluval U2 Underwater Filter

__________________________________________________________________________UPDATED 7/26/12-- see bottom part of entry-- upgrade from 3 to 5 stars__________________________________________________________________________Original review June 2012:I'm writing a long review because I found it helpful to hear others' experience specifically with turtles. They are a little different than fish when it comes to what works.I have a painted turtle, about 5-6 inches long right now. We have an algae eater too who helps keep the tank clean (we call it a sucker fish, not sure what its real name is). We also periodically add small minnows and goldfish to entertain the turtle and for food if we forget to feed her or go on vacation. Since she's primarily a water turtle, her tank consists of mostly water with a few haul out spots.We just upgraded from a 20G tank to this one. Previously we've always used the Whisper Quiet filters with great success. People would rave about how clean the turtle tank was, and we could pretty much ignore it (don't worry about changing water, etc.) In the 20G tank we had the 20-40G Whisper Quiet in about 16G of water, no plants, a few submerged items, and a floating plastic "log" for basking. For the 50G, we added a few more submerged and surface items, but all are plastic or rocks, nothing living.Upgrading to the 50G tank (with about 40-42G water) posed a problem for me. All of the larger hang on back filters required the water level to be higher than I wanted, since the turtle needs some land, and I didn't want it climbing out. I tried rigging a few up-- the larger Tetra one worked very well, but I had to rig it inside of the tank, and it just took up too much room.I decided to try the underwater Fluval for two reasons-- never need to worry about water level, and because I'm not willing to invest in a canister filter.PROS:--silence. it's golden--ease of changing filter media (it's really simple, you can lift it up so you don't contaminate everything or spit junk back out)--will never dry out or burn out if you lose power and it restarts (since submerged)--ability to place where I like in the tank for optimal filtering and flow to stir things up--ability to change parts of filter at a time to preserve beneficial bacteria--foam pad separate from other pieces so you can rinse that and not everything--no splashing, so no hard water stains on side of tankCONS:--I want to love this filter and I hope it works long term. We used it in a tank that had been recently filled and set up, with the Tetra running for about a week. Initially this worked really well, but about a week into it, the water turned nasty green. First off, TURTLES ARE DIRTY. By nature I don't think this filter accomodates that. I'm holding off judgement since it sometimes takes a while to get things right when you set up a new tank, as it happened before with other filters too at times. However, in this case, I think it's because of a lack of active carbon in the filter. There is just a tiny bit there, and in my experience (6 years with this turtle), the active carbon is ESSENTIAL to keeping them from getting stinky and gross. I decided to remove the bio pellets from the middle part (step 3) since I never had them before in my tanks anyway, and instead fill that space with one of the tetra filters filled with activated carbon. It's been about 10 hours. The nastiness is gone and the tank looks much better. There still seem to be a lot of particles in the water, but I am continuing to work on that-- not sure if I can blame it on the filter at this time. I will keep adjusting, because I think this filter is worth figuring out how to make it work for turtles.I gave it three stars because it advertises that it can be used for my purpose, but I don't think it comes through with the media it uses. I also think their media replacements are expensive relative to other filters (which is especially frustrating when they aren't even working for me). However, if the makeshift adjustment of using other carbon filters inside the third chamber is effective, I would upgrade to 4 stars. If I get to perfectly crystal clear water without the need to pay attention to the tank every week (yes, it's possible with some cheap filters), I'd go to 5 stars. I ask a lot from my filters!___________________________________________UPDATE 7/26/12This definitely deserved the upgrade to five stars. I had to leave for three weeks after adding the Tetra carbon filter to the center in place of the bio pellets, so I filled it with a bunch of minnows for her to eat over time, then came home to a tank that was still crystal clear after 24 days. (Trust me, I was almost afraid to look at the tank when I returned for fear of how gross it might be.) A few minnows were still swimming around happily too. I went ahead and swapped out the carbon filter, but it looks like I can simply wash out the outer sponge and pathetic carbon insert supplied with it periodically and replace the Tetra carbon insert in the center chamber monthly. I still don't like that I had to adjust it, but I don't think there's a great product out there for turtles, and this is working VERY well. Plus, I am now purchasing the cheaper Tetra filters, so my ongoing costs will be less.If you go this route, it does seem like a very tight fit to fold over the Tetra filter and slip it in the middle chamber, so don't be shy. Just wiggle it as you push it in and be gentle.All that remains to be seen is longevity, but for now I am one happy consumer!

The best filter I have used so far. I purchased this for a 40 gallon tank for my yellow bellied slider and when I first put the filter in the tank the tank was very cloudy from the river rock I put in, within just a couple of hours my water was completely clear and has been for over a week now. I highly recommend this filter.

Paint to use but works great

There are many choices out there when it comes to filtration for your fish tank. Which of the many choices out there would make the best choice for you? Internal, or external? Are you looking for supplemental filtration, or primary filtration?In most situations, an external filter would be the better choice. Canister, power filter, wet/dry sump, refugium, all have the advantage of not taking up any space inside the fish tank. They are also all capable of holding more media than internal filters. However, some situations make it difficult to install an external filter on a fish tank. For example, if the tank is located in such a way that there are no available spaces behind, nor at the bottom, then your only choice might be to use an internal filter. For simple biological filtration, an air-driven sponge filter would suffice. However, a pump-driven internal filter offers increased circulation and better mechanical filtration.Let us say that you want an internal filter that is capable of providing complete filtration. Not just supplemental filtration but rather a single filter that can provide mechanical, biological, and chemical filtration. In that case, your choices will be limited. Most internal filters are designed to provide supplemental filtration. Most will provide mechanical and biological, but few of the designs will provide chemical filtration. The Fluval U-series of internal filters provide complete filtration, with the exception of the smallest model in the line up. This is the best internal filter that I have ever bought.An internal filter would not be my first choice. However, I was faced with a situation that would not have allowed the use of an external power filter. My choice then came down to between an internal vs. a canister filter. The tank will contain floating plants. Circulation needed to be gentle, and the surface of the water should be still. This filter met the requirements, without the maintenance hassle of having to use a canister filter.The filter was easy to install. The bracket system allows you to remove the filter, without having to remove the suction cups. The suction cups are attached to the bracket, and it is the bracket that holds the filter unit inside the tank. It is surprisingly quiet. You can adjust the output. Water can exit from the top, the middle, or the bottom of the unit. The middle output provides the most gentle flow.Mechanical filtration is provided by a coarse sponge, followed by a fine filter pad. The back of the filter pad is carbonized. This provides a little bit of chemical filtration. Biomax ceramic rings provide the biological portion of the filtration. All in all, a tidy, complete filter system.Disadvantages? It takes up a lot of space inside the tank. The small amount of carbon bonded to the filter pad is not enough to remove tannins from the water. And, it gets used up very quickly. It is possible that you may be able to remove the biomax and put pelleted carbon in its place. Another weakness is that the mounting bracket uses suction cups to attach to the tank wall. A truly modern filter design such as this should be using magnets instead of rubber cups.If you can use an external filter, that should be your first choice. They provide advantages at all three types of filtration (mechanical, biological, and chemical) over even the best internal filter out there. However, if you must have an internal filter, then this is the one that I would recommend. Any of the Fluval U-series, starting with the U2, all the way to the U4 will provide complete filtration. The smallest model, the U1, will not provide complete filtration.Highly recommended. This could be the best internal filter system available in the hobby, in the humble opinion of this reviewer. Please know that I do not own every model of internal filters out there. I am basing this on the ones that I have owned over the years, but there are a few models that I have not tried. However, I have researched the ones commonly available in the U.S., and this line appears to be the best out there.Consider your needs carefully before you decide. If ever Fluval were to discontinue this model, then you will find it difficult to find replacement media. It is not as easy to "create" your own media for this as it would be for an Aquaclear. But it can be done. You can buy bulk padding and cut them to the approximate size and shape of the plastic holder. For carbon, you can simply replace the biomax with large, pelleted carbon.